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Normality is not transitive
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This article gives the statement, and possibly proof, of a subgroup property (i.e., normal subgroup) not satisfying a subgroup metaproperty (i.e., transitive subgroup property).
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Statement
Verbal statement
A normal subgroup of a normal subgroup need not be normal.
Statement with symbols
There can be a situation where H is a normal subgroup of K and K is a normal subgroup of G but H is not a normal subgroup of G.
Property-theoretic statement
Normality is not a transitive subgroup property.
Partial truth
Transitivity-forcing operator
A group in which every normal subgroup of a normal subgroup is normal is termed a T-group. Note that Abelian groups and Dedekind groups are T-groups, and any nilpotent group that is a T-group is also a Dedekind group.
Left transiter
While normality is not transitive, it is still true that every characteristic subgroup of a normal subgroup is normal. This is property-theoretically because characteristicity is the left transiter of normality -- it is the weakest property p such that every subgroup with property p in a normal subgroup is normal.For full proof, refer: Characteristic of normal implies normal, Left transiter of normal is characteristic
Right transiter
While normality is not transitive, every normal subgroup of a transitively normal subgroup is normal. Being transitively normal is the right transiter of being normal. Properties like being a direct factor, being a central subgroup, and being a central factor imply being transitively normal.
Subnormality
The lack of transitivity of normality can also be remedied by defining the notion of subnormal subgroup. Subnormality is the weakest transitive subgroup property implied by normality. More explicitly, a subgroup H is subnormal in a group G, if we can find a chain of subgroups going up from H to G, with each subgroup normal in its successor.
A special case of this is the notion of 2-subnormal subgroup, which is a normal subgroup of a normal subgroup. Another special case is the notion of a 3-subnormal subgroup, which is a normal subgroup of a normal subgroup of a normal subgroup.
There are also related notions of hypernormalized subgroup, 2-hypernormalized subgroup, ascendant subgroup, descendant subgroup, and serial subgroup.
Related facts
- Characteristic of normal implies normal
- There exist subgroups of arbitrarily large subnormal depth
- Descendant not implies subnormal
- Ascendant not implies subnormal
Proof
Generic example
A natural example is as follows. Take any nontrivial group G, and consider the square,
(the external direct product of G with itself). Now, consider the external semidirect product of this group with the group
(the cyclic group of two elements) acting via the exchange automorphism (the automorphism that exchanges the coordinates). Call the big group L.
(Note that L can be described more compactly as the external wreath product of G with the group of order two acting regularly.)
Let G1,G2 be the copies of G embedded in K as
and
. We then have:
- G1 is normal in K: In fact, G1 is a direct factor of K, and is thus normal.
- K is normal in L: K is the base of a semidirect product, and is thus normal. Equivalently, any inner automorphism of L is the composite of an inner automorphism in K and the exchange automorphism, both of which preserve K.
- G1 is not normal in L: The exchange automorphism is an inner automorphism of L, and it exchanges G1 and G2 -- in particular, it does not preserve G1. Thus, G1 is not normal in L.
Specific realizations of this generic example
- The smallest case of this yields G1 a group of order two, and L a group of order eight. In fact, here L is the dihedral group of order eight and G is a cyclic group of order two, with G1 and G2 being subgroups of order two generated by reflections.
GAP implementation
Implementation of the generic example
Here is an implementation of the generic example, with any nontrivial group G. Note that you need to define G for GAP before executing the commands in this example! Note that double semicolons have been used to suppress the output here, since the output depends on the choice of G (you can use single semicolons instead to display all the outputs).
We first construct the groups G1,G2,K,L using the wreath product command:
gap> L := WreathProduct(G,SymmetricGroup(2));; gap> G1 := Image(Embedding(L,1));; gap> G2 := Image(Embedding(L,2));; gap> K := Group(Union(G1,G2));;
Next, we check that G1 and G2 are subgroups of K and K is a subgroup of L:
gap> IsSubgroup(L,K); true gap> IsSubgroup(K,G1); true gap> IsSubgroup(K,G2); true
Finally, we check that G1,G2 are both normal in K and K is normal in L, but G1 and G2 are not normal in K.
gap> IsNormal(L,K); true gap> IsNormal(K,G1); true gap> IsNormal(K,G2); true gap> IsNormal(L,G1); false gap> IsNormal(L,G2); false
The implementation in some special cases
Here is the implementation when G is cyclic of order two:
gap> L := WreathProduct(G,SymmetricGroup(2)); <group of size 8 with 2 generators> gap> G1 := Image(Embedding(L,1)); <group with 1 generators> gap> G2 := Image(Embedding(L,2)); <group with 1 generators> gap> K := Group(Union(G1,G2)); <group with 3 generators> gap> IsSubgroup(L,K); true gap> IsSubgroup(K,G1); true gap> IsSubgroup(K,G2); true gap> IsNormal(L,K); true gap> IsNormal(K,G1); true gap> IsNormal(K,G2); true gap> IsNormal(L,G1); false gap> IsNormal(L,G2); false
References
Textbook references
- Groups and representations by Jonathan Lazare Alperin and Rowen B. Bell, ISBN 0387945261, Page 8, More info Also, Page 6 (first mention), and Page 17 (further explanation)
- Abstract Algebra by David S. Dummit and Richard M. Foote, ISBN 0471433349, Page 91, Section 3.2 (More on cosets and Lagrange's theorem), Example (3), (example of the dihedral group)More info Also, Page 135, with justification of the related fact that characteristic of normal implies normal
- An Introduction to Abstract Algebra by Derek J. S. Robinson, ISBN 3110175444More info, Page 66
- A Course in the Theory of Groups by Derek J. S. Robinson, ISBN 0387944613, Page 17, Exercise 1.3.15, More info Also: Page 28, Page 63
- Algebra by Michael Artin, ISBN 0130047635, 13-digit ISBN 978-0130047632, Page 236, Miscellaneous Problems (Chapter 6), Exercise 4, (starred problem)More info
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| Fact about | Normal subgroup +, Transitive subgroup property +, and External wreath product + |
| Particular example | Dihedral group:D8 +, and Cyclic group:Z2 + |
| Proved in | AlperinBell (8, ?, ?) +, and DummitFoote (91, Section 3.2 (More on cosets and Lagrange's theorem), Example (3), example of the dihedral group) + |
| Referenced in | AlperinBell (8, ?, ?) +, DummitFoote (91, Section 3.2 (More on cosets and Lagrange's theorem), Example (3), example of the dihedral group) +, RobinsonAA (?, ?, ?) +, RobinsonGT (17, Exercise 1.3.15, ?) +, and Artin (236, Miscellaneous Problems (Chapter 6), Exercise 4, starred problem) + |
| Stated in | AlperinBell (8, ?, ?) +, DummitFoote (91, Section 3.2 (More on cosets and Lagrange's theorem), Example (3), example of the dihedral group) +, RobinsonGT (17, Exercise 1.3.15, ?) +, and Artin (236, Miscellaneous Problems (Chapter 6), Exercise 4, starred problem) + |

