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==Definition==
==Definition==


===Symbol-free definition===
{{quick phrase|normal inside normal closure, every conjugate is in its normalizer, normal closure is in normalizer, normal subgroup of normal subgroup, subgroup of subnormal defect at most two}}


A subgroup of a group is termed 2-subnormal if the following equivalent conditions hold:
{| class="sortable" border="1"
! No. !! Shorthand !! A subgroup of a group is 2-subnormal in it if ... !! A subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>G</math> if 2-subnormal in <math>G</math> if ...
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| 1 || normal of normal || there is an intermediate subgroup containing it such that the subgroup is [[defining ingredient::normal subgroup|normal]] in the intermediate subgroup and such that the intermediate subgroup is normal in the whole group. || there is subgroup <math>K</math> of <math>G</math> such that <math>H</math> is a normal subgroup of <math>K</math> and <math>K</math> is a normal subgroup of <math>G</math>.
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| 2 || normal in closure || the subgroup is normal in its [[defining ingredient::normal closure]] in the whole group. || <math>H</math> is a normal subgroup of its [[normal closure]] <math>H^G</math> in <math>G</math>.
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| 3 || normal closure in normalizer || the normal closure of the subgroup is contained in the [[defining ingredient::normalizer of a subgroup|normalizer]] of the subgroup. || the normal closure <math>H^G</math> is contained in the normalizer <math>N_G(H)</math>.
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| 4 || every conjugate in normalizer || every [[defining ingredient::conjugate subgroups|conjugate]] of the subgroup is contained in its normalizer, i.e., every conjugate normalizes it. || for every <math>g \in G</math>, <math>gHg^{-1} \le N_G(H)</math>.
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| 5 || in normal core of normalizer || the subgroup is contained in its [[defining ingredient::normal core of normalizer]]: the [[defining ingredient::normal core]] of its [[normalizer of a subgroup|normalizer]]. || <math>H</math> is contained in the normal core <math>(N_G(H))_G</math> of <math>N_G(H)</math> in <math>G</math>.
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| 6 || subnormal of depth 2 || it is a [[defining ingredient::subnormal subgroup]] whose [[defining ingredient::subnormal depth]] (also called ''subnormal defect'') is at most <math>2</math>. || <math>H</math> is subnormal in <math>G</math> with subnormal depth at most <math>2</math>.
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| 7 || contains second commutator || it contains its second commutator subgroup with the whole group || <math>[[G,H],H] \le H</math> where <math>[,]</math> denotes the [[defining ingredient::commutator of two subgroups]].
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{{subgroup property composition|normal subgroup|normal subgroup}}
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* There is an intermediate subgroup containing it such that the subgroup is [[normal subgroup|normal]] in the intermediate subgroup and such that the intermediate subgroup is normal in the whole group.
==Comment==
* The subgroup is normal in its [[normal closure]].


The property of being 2-subnormal is the same as the property of being subnormal of depth 2.
A 2-subnormal subgroup <math>H</math> has a unique fastest ascending subnormal series <math>H \le K \le G</math>, where <math>K</math> is the normal core of <math>N_G(H)</math>. It also has a unique fastest descending subnormal series <math>G \ge L \ge H</math>, where <math>L</math> is the normal closure of <math>H</math> in <math>G</math>. While subnormal subgroups of larger depth also have unique fastest descending subnormal series, they do not in general possess unique fastest ascending subnormal series. {{further|[[2-subnormal subgroup has a unique fastest ascending subnormal series]], [[Subnormal subgroup has a unique fastest descending subnormal series]], [[3-subnormal subgroup need not have a unique fastest ascending subnormal series]]}}


===Definition with symbols===
==Formalisms==


A subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>G</math> is termed '''2-subnormal''' if the following equivalent conditions hold:
{{first-order subgroup property}}


* There is subgroup <math>K</math> such that <math>H</math> is a normal subgroup of <math>K</math> and <math>K</math> is a normal subgroup of <math>G</math>.
A subgroup <math>H</math> is 2-subnormal in a group <math>G</math> if it satisfies the following first-order sentence:
* The normal closure of <math>H</math> is a normal subgroup of <math>G</math>.
 
<math>\forall g \in G, \forall x,y \in H, gxg^{-1}ygx^{-1}g^{-1} \in H</math>
 
==Examples==
 
{{subgroup property see examples}}
 
==Metaproperties==
 
{| class="sortable" border="1"
! Metaproperty name !! Satisfied? !! Proof !! Statement with symbols
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| [[dissatisfies metaproperty::transitive subgroup property]] || No || [[2-subnormality is not transitive]] || There exist groups <math>H \le K \le G</math>, with <math>H</math> 2-subnormal in <math>K</math>, <math>K</math> 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>, but <math>H</math> not 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>.
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| [[satisfies metaproperty::trim subgroup property]] || Yes || [[Every group is normal in itself]], [[trivial subgroup is normal]] || For any group <math>G</math>, the whole group and the trivial subgroup are both 2-subnormal.
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| [[satisfies metaproperty::strongly intersection-closed subgroup property]] || Yes || [[Subnormality of fixed depth is strongly intersection-closed]] || <math>H_i, i \in I</math> all 2-subnormal subgroups of <math>G</math>, then so is <math>\bigcap_{i \in I} H_i</math>.
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| [[dissatisfies metaproperty::finite-join-closed subgroup property]] || No || [[2-subnormality is not finite-join-closed]] || Can have subgroups <math>H, K \le G</math>, both 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>, such that <math>\langle H, K \rangle</math> is not 2-subnormal.
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| [[satisfies metaproperty::conjugate-join-closed subgroup property]] || Yes || [[2-subnormality is conjugate-join-closed]] || A join of subgroups <math>H_i, i \in I</math> of <math>G</math>, with all 2-subnormal in <math>G</math> and all conjugate to each other, is also 2-subnormal.
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| [[satisfies metaproperty::intermediate subgroup condition]] || Yes || [[2-subnormality satisfies intermediate subgroup condition]] || If <math>H \le K \le G</math>, with <math>H</math> 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>, then <math>H</math> is 2-subnormal in <math>K</math>.
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| [[satisfies metaproperty::transfer condition]] || Yes || [[2-subnormality satisfies transfer condition]] || If <math>H, K \le G</math>, with <math>H</math> 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>, then <math>H \cap K</math> is 2-subnormal in <math>K</math>.
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| [[satisfies metaproperty::image condition]] || Yes || [[2-subnormality satisfies image condition]] || If <math>H</math> 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>, <math>f:G \to K</math> surjective homomorphism, then <math>f(H)</math> is 2-subnormal in <math>K</math>.
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| [[satisfies metaproperty::inverse image condition]] || Yes || [[2-subnormality satisfies inverse image condition]] || If <math>f:K \to G</math> homomorphism, <math>H</math> 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>, then <math>f^{-1}(H)</math> 2-subnormal in <math>K</math>.
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| [[dissatisfies metaproperty::upper join-closed subgroup property]] || No || [[2-subnormality is not upper join-closed]] || Can have <math>H \le K, L \le G</math> with <math>H</math> 2-subnormal in both <math>K</math> and <math>L</math> but not in <math>\langle K, L \rangle</math>.
|}


==Relation with other properties==
==Relation with other properties==
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===Stronger properties===
===Stronger properties===


* [[Normal subgroup]]: This follows directly from the definition.
{| class="sortable" border="1"
* [[2-hypernormalized subgroup]]: This is a particular case of the fact that any <math>k</math>-hypernormalized subgroup is also <math>k</math>-subnormal.
! Property !! Meaning !! Proof of implication !! Proof of strictness (reverse implication failure) !! Intermediate notions
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| [[Weaker than::base of a wreath product]] || occurs as the base (the direct factor in the direct product that forms the normal subgroup of the semidirect product) of a wreath product || || || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|base of a wreath product}}
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| [[Weaker than::normal subgroup]] || invariant under inner automorphisms; subnormal of depth at most 1 || (by definition) || [[normality is not transitive]] || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|normal subgroup}}
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| [[Weaker than::2-hypernormalized subgroup]] || [[normalizer]] is [[normal subgroup|normal]] || || [[2-subnormal not implies hypernormalized]] || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|2-hypernormalized subgroup}}
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| [[Weaker than::right-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup]] || every 2-subnormal subgroup of it is 2-subnormal in the whole group. || (by definition, since 2-subnormality is an [[identity-true subgroup property]]) || [[2-subnormality is not transitive]] || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|right-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Weaker than::left-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup]] || If whole group is 2-subnormal in some group, so is subgroup || (by definition, since 2-subnormality is an [[identity-true subgroup property]]) || [[2-subnormality is not transitive]]|| {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|left-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Weaker than::join-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup]] || [[join of subgroups|join]] with any 2-subnormal subgroup is 2-subnormal || (by definition, since 2-subnormality is a [[trivially true subgroup property]]) || [[2-subnormality is not finite-join-closed]] || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|join-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Weaker than::commutator of a normal subgroup and a subset]] || ||[[Commutator of a normal subgroup and a subset implies 2-subnormal]]|| || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|commutator of a normal subgroup and a subset}}
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| [[Weaker than::direct factor of characteristic subgroup]] || [[direct factor]] of [[characteristic subgroup]]|| || || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|direct factor of characteristic subgroup}}
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| [[Weaker than::direct factor of normal subgroup]] || [[direct factor]] of a [[normal subgroup]] of the whole group || || || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|direct factor of normal subgroup}}
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| [[Weaker than::normal subgroup of characteristic subgroup]] || [[normal subgroup]] of a [[characteristic subgroup]] of the whole group || follows from [[characteristic implies normal]] || || {{intermediate notions short|2-subnormal subgroup|normal subgroup of characteristic subgroup}}
|}


===Weaker properties===
===Weaker properties===


* [[Conjugate-permutable subgroup]]: {{proofat|[[2-subnormal implies conjugate-permutable]]}}
{| class="sortable" border="1"
* [[Subnormal subgroup]]: This follows directly from the definition.
! Property !! Meaning !! Proof of implication !! Proof of strictness (reverse implication failure) !! Intermediate notions
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| [[Stronger than::conjugate-permutable subgroup]] || [[permuting subgroups|permutes]] with all [[conjugate subgroups]] || [[2-subnormal implies conjugate-permutable]] || [[conjugate-permutable not implies 2-subnormal]] || {{intermediate notions short|conjugate-permutable subgroup|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Stronger than::loin-transitively subnormal subgroup]] || [[join of subgroups|join]] with any subnormal subgroup is subnormal || [[2-subnormal implies join-transitively subnormal]] || [[join-transitively subnormal not implies 2-subnormal]] || {{intermediate notions short|join-transitively subnormal subgroup|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Stronger than::linear-bound join-transitively subnormal subgroup]] || || || || {{intermediate notions short|linear-bound join-transitively subnormal subgroup|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Stronger than::polynomial-bound join-transitively subnormal subgroup]] || || || || {{intermediate notions short|polynomial-bound join-transitive subnormal subgroup|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Stronger than::join of finitely many 2-subnormal subgroups]] || || || [[2-subnormality is not finite-join-closed]] || {{intermediate notions short|join of finitely many 2-subnormal subgroups|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Stronger than::join of 2-subnormal subgroups]] || || || || {{intermediate notions short|join of 2-subnormal subgroups|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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| [[Stronger than::subnormal subgroup]] || || || [[there exist subgroups of arbitrarily large subnormal depth]] || {{intermediate notions short|subnormal subgroup|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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|[[Stronger than::3-subnormal subgroup]] || subnormal of depth at most 3|| || || {{intermediate notions short|3-subnormal subgroup|2-subnormal subgroup}}
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|[[Stronger than::4-subnormal subgroup]] || subnormal of depth at most 4 || || || {{intermediate notions short|4-subnormal subgroup|2-subnormal subgroup}}
|}
 
==Effect of property operators==
 
{| class="sortable" border="1"
! Operator !! Meaning !! Result of application !! Proof
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| [[left transiter]] || if big group is 2-subnormal in a bigger group, so is subgroup || [[left-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup]] || by definition
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| [[right transiter]] || any 2-subnormal subgroup of subgroup is 2-subnormal in whole group || [[right-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup]] || by definition
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| [[join-transiter]] || join with any 2-subnormal subgroup is 2-subnormal || [[join-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup]] || by definition
|}
 
For more information on these operators: <toggledisplay>
 
{{applyingoperatorgives|right transiter|right-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup}}
 
The right transiter of the property of being 2-subnormal is termed the property of being '''right-transitively 2-subnormal'''. A subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>G</math> is termed right-transitively 2-subnormal if any 2-subnormal subgroup <math>K</math> of <math>H</math> is 2-subnormal in <math>G</math>.
 
Some subgroup properties stronger than being right-transitively 2-subnormal include: [[base of a wreath product]], [[transitively normal subgroup]], and [[normal subgroup]] that is also a [[T-group]] (for instance, an [[Abelian normal subgroup]]).
 
{{applyingoperatorgives|left transiter|left-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup}}
 
The left transiter of the property of being 2-subnormal is termed the property of being '''left-transitively 2-subnormal'''. A subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>G</math> is termed left-transitively 2-subnormal if whenever <math>G</math> is embedded as a 2-subnormal subgroup of some group <math>K</math>, <math>H</math> is also 2-subnormal in <math>K</math>.
 
Any [[characteristic subgroup]] is left-transitively 2-subnormal, because the [[left transiter of normal is characteristic]].
 
{{applyingoperatorgives|join-transiter|join-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup}}


[[Category: Variations of normality]]
A join-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup is a subgroup whose join with any 2-subnormal subgroup is 2-subnormal. Any [[normal subgroup]] is join-transitively 2-subnormal.
[[Category: Subgroup properties]]
</toggledisplay>

Latest revision as of 04:46, 2 September 2026

Definition

QUICK PHRASES: normal inside normal closure, every conjugate is in its normalizer, normal closure is in normalizer, normal subgroup of normal subgroup, subgroup of subnormal defect at most two

No. Shorthand A subgroup of a group is 2-subnormal in it if ... A subgroup H of a group G if 2-subnormal in G if ...
1 normal of normal there is an intermediate subgroup containing it such that the subgroup is normal in the intermediate subgroup and such that the intermediate subgroup is normal in the whole group. there is subgroup K of G such that H is a normal subgroup of K and K is a normal subgroup of G.
2 normal in closure the subgroup is normal in its normal closure in the whole group. H is a normal subgroup of its normal closure HG in G.
3 normal closure in normalizer the normal closure of the subgroup is contained in the normalizer of the subgroup. the normal closure HG is contained in the normalizer NG(H).
4 every conjugate in normalizer every conjugate of the subgroup is contained in its normalizer, i.e., every conjugate normalizes it. for every gG, gHg1NG(H).
5 in normal core of normalizer the subgroup is contained in its normal core of normalizer: the normal core of its normalizer. H is contained in the normal core (NG(H))G of NG(H) in G.
6 subnormal of depth 2 it is a subnormal subgroup whose subnormal depth (also called subnormal defect) is at most 2. H is subnormal in G with subnormal depth at most 2.
7 contains second commutator it contains its second commutator subgroup with the whole group [[G,H],H]H where [,] denotes the commutator of two subgroups.

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Comment

A 2-subnormal subgroup H has a unique fastest ascending subnormal series HKG, where K is the normal core of NG(H). It also has a unique fastest descending subnormal series GLH, where L is the normal closure of H in G. While subnormal subgroups of larger depth also have unique fastest descending subnormal series, they do not in general possess unique fastest ascending subnormal series. Further information: 2-subnormal subgroup has a unique fastest ascending subnormal series, Subnormal subgroup has a unique fastest descending subnormal series, 3-subnormal subgroup need not have a unique fastest ascending subnormal series

Formalisms

First-order description

This subgroup property is a first-order subgroup property, viz., it has a first-order description in the theory of groups.
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A subgroup H is 2-subnormal in a group G if it satisfies the following first-order sentence:

gG,x,yH,gxg1ygx1g1H

Examples

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Metaproperties

Metaproperty name Satisfied? Proof Statement with symbols
transitive subgroup property No 2-subnormality is not transitive There exist groups HKG, with H 2-subnormal in K, K 2-subnormal in G, but H not 2-subnormal in G.
trim subgroup property Yes Every group is normal in itself, trivial subgroup is normal For any group G, the whole group and the trivial subgroup are both 2-subnormal.
strongly intersection-closed subgroup property Yes Subnormality of fixed depth is strongly intersection-closed Hi,iI all 2-subnormal subgroups of G, then so is iIHi.
finite-join-closed subgroup property No 2-subnormality is not finite-join-closed Can have subgroups H,KG, both 2-subnormal in G, such that H,K is not 2-subnormal.
conjugate-join-closed subgroup property Yes 2-subnormality is conjugate-join-closed A join of subgroups Hi,iI of G, with all 2-subnormal in G and all conjugate to each other, is also 2-subnormal.
intermediate subgroup condition Yes 2-subnormality satisfies intermediate subgroup condition If HKG, with H 2-subnormal in G, then H is 2-subnormal in K.
transfer condition Yes 2-subnormality satisfies transfer condition If H,KG, with H 2-subnormal in G, then HK is 2-subnormal in K.
image condition Yes 2-subnormality satisfies image condition If H 2-subnormal in G, f:GK surjective homomorphism, then f(H) is 2-subnormal in K.
inverse image condition Yes 2-subnormality satisfies inverse image condition If f:KG homomorphism, H 2-subnormal in G, then f1(H) 2-subnormal in K.
upper join-closed subgroup property No 2-subnormality is not upper join-closed Can have HK,LG with H 2-subnormal in both K and L but not in K,L.

Relation with other properties

Stronger properties

Property Meaning Proof of implication Proof of strictness (reverse implication failure) Intermediate notions
base of a wreath product occurs as the base (the direct factor in the direct product that forms the normal subgroup of the semidirect product) of a wreath product |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
normal subgroup invariant under inner automorphisms; subnormal of depth at most 1 (by definition) normality is not transitive |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
2-hypernormalized subgroup normalizer is normal 2-subnormal not implies hypernormalized |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
right-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup every 2-subnormal subgroup of it is 2-subnormal in the whole group. (by definition, since 2-subnormality is an identity-true subgroup property) 2-subnormality is not transitive |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
left-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup If whole group is 2-subnormal in some group, so is subgroup (by definition, since 2-subnormality is an identity-true subgroup property) 2-subnormality is not transitive |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
join-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup join with any 2-subnormal subgroup is 2-subnormal (by definition, since 2-subnormality is a trivially true subgroup property) 2-subnormality is not finite-join-closed |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
commutator of a normal subgroup and a subset Commutator of a normal subgroup and a subset implies 2-subnormal |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
direct factor of characteristic subgroup direct factor of characteristic subgroup |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
direct factor of normal subgroup direct factor of a normal subgroup of the whole group |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
normal subgroup of characteristic subgroup normal subgroup of a characteristic subgroup of the whole group follows from characteristic implies normal |FULL LIST, MORE INFO

Weaker properties

Property Meaning Proof of implication Proof of strictness (reverse implication failure) Intermediate notions
conjugate-permutable subgroup permutes with all conjugate subgroups 2-subnormal implies conjugate-permutable conjugate-permutable not implies 2-subnormal |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
loin-transitively subnormal subgroup join with any subnormal subgroup is subnormal 2-subnormal implies join-transitively subnormal join-transitively subnormal not implies 2-subnormal |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
linear-bound join-transitively subnormal subgroup |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
polynomial-bound join-transitively subnormal subgroup |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
join of finitely many 2-subnormal subgroups 2-subnormality is not finite-join-closed |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
join of 2-subnormal subgroups |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
subnormal subgroup there exist subgroups of arbitrarily large subnormal depth |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
3-subnormal subgroup subnormal of depth at most 3 |FULL LIST, MORE INFO
4-subnormal subgroup subnormal of depth at most 4 |FULL LIST, MORE INFO

Effect of property operators

Operator Meaning Result of application Proof
left transiter if big group is 2-subnormal in a bigger group, so is subgroup left-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup by definition
right transiter any 2-subnormal subgroup of subgroup is 2-subnormal in whole group right-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup by definition
join-transiter join with any 2-subnormal subgroup is 2-subnormal join-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup by definition

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