Characteristicity is not finite-relative-intersection-closed
This article gives the statement, and possibly proof, of a subgroup property (i.e., characteristic subgroup) not satisfying a subgroup metaproperty (i.e., finite-relative-intersection-closed subgroup property).
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Statement
Verbal statement
It is possible to have a group with subgroups , such that , characteristic in and characteristic in , but not characteristic in .
Related facts
Other facts about finite-relative-intersection-closed
- Subnormality is finite-relative-intersection-closed
- Transitive and transfer condition implies finite-relative-intersection-closed
Related metaproperty satisfactions and dissatisfactions for characteristicity
- Characteristicity is transitive
- Characteristicity is strongly intersection-closed
- Characteristicity does not satisfy intermediate subgroup condition
- Characteristicity does not satisfy transfer condition
Example
Example where
Further information: symmetric group:S4, dihedral group:D8, subgroup structure of symmetric group:S4
Suppose is the symmetric group on the set . Define:
and define , explicitly, is a -Sylow subgroup of isomorphic to the dihedral group:
.
Then:
- is characteristic in : In fact, it is the only normal subgroup of order in , and also equals the second commutator subgroup of .
- is characteristic in : In fact, is an isomorph-free subgroup of .
- is not characteristic in : The intersection is the two-element subgroup , which is not characteristic -- in fact, it is not even normal in , as it is not invariant under conjugation by .
Example where
Further information: symmetric group:S4, dihedral group:D8, subgroup structure of symmetric group:S4
Suppose is the symmetric group on the set . Define:
and is a -Sylow subgroup of isomorphic to the dihedral group, containing :
.
Then:
- is characteristic in : In fact, it is the only normal subgroup of order in , and also equals the second commutator subgroup of .
- is characteristic in : In fact, is the center of .
- is not characteristic in : The intersection is the two-element subgroup , which is not characteristic -- in fact, it is not even normal in , as it is not invariant under conjugation by .