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==Definition==


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===Symbol-free definition===


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A subgroup of a group is termed '''characteristic-potentially characteristic''' if there is an embedding of the bigger group in some group such that, in that embedding both the group and the subgroup become characteristic.


==Definition==
===Definition with symbols===


===Symbol-free definition===
A subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>G</math> is termed '''characteristic-potentially characteristic''' in <math>G</math> if there exists a group <math>K</math> containing <math>G</math> such that both <math>H</math> and <math>G</math> are characteristic in <math>K</math>.


A subgroup of a group is termed '''strongly potentially characteristic''' if there is an embedding of the bigger group in some group such that, in that embedding both the group and the subgroup become characteristic.
==Formalisms==


===Definition with symbols===
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A subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>G</math> is termed ''potentially characteristic'' in <math>G</math> if there exists a group <math>K</math> containing <math>G</math> such that both <math>H</math> and <math>G</math> are characteristic in <math>K</math>.
===In terms of the upper-hook operator===


===In terms of the strongly potentially operator===
Given two subgroup properties <math>p</math> and <math>q</math>, the [[upper-hook operator]] of <math>p</math> and <math>q</math> is defined as the following property <math>r</math>: a subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>K</math> has property <math>r</math> if there exists a group <math>G</math> containing <math>K</math> such that <math>H</math> has property <math>p</math> in <math>G</math> and <math>K</math> has property <math>q</math> in <math>G</math>.


The [[subgroup property]] of being '''potentially characteristic''' is obtained by applying the [[strongly potentially operator]] to the subgroup property of being [[characteristic subgroup|characteristic]].
The property of being characteristic-potentially characteristic is thus obtained by applying the upper-hook operator to the property [[characteristic subgroup]] with itself.


==Relation with other properties==
==Relation with other properties==
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===Stronger properties===
===Stronger properties===


* [[Characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Weaker than::Characteristic subgroup]]


===Weaker properties===
===Weaker properties===


* [[Potentially characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Stronger than::Normal-potentially characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Potentially relatively characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Stronger than::Normal-potentially relatively characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Extensible automorphism-invariant subgroup]]
* [[Stronger than::Normal subgroup]]: {{proofofstrictimplicationat|[[Characteristic-potentially characteristic implies normal]]|[[Normal not implies characteristic-potentially characteristic]]}}
* [[Normal subgroup]]
* [[Stronger than::Characteristic-extensible automorphism-invariant subgroup]]
 
* [[Stronger than::Normal-extensible automorphism-invariant subgroup]]
===Conjecture of equalling normality===
 
{conjecturedtoequal|normality}}
 
The [[NSPC conjecture]] states that every normal subgorup is strongly potentially characteristic. In other words, if <math>H \triangleleft G</math>, there is a group <math>K</math> containing <math>G</math> such that both both <math>H</math> and <math>G</math> are characteristic in <math>K</math>.


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===Left transiter===
Every characteristic subgroup of a strongly potentially characteristic subgroup is strongly potentially characteristic. In fact, the same supergroup works.
That is, suppose <math>M \le G \le H</math> with <math>M</math> characteristic in <math>G</math> and <math>G</math> strongly potentially characteristic in <math>H</math>. Then, there exists a group <math>K</math> containing <math>H</math> such that both <math>G</math> and <math>H</math> are [[characteristic subgroup|characteristic]] in <math>K</math>. Then, we also have that both <math>M</math> and <math>H</math> are characteristic in <math>K</math>, and hence <math>M</math> is strongly potentially characteristic in <math>H</math>.

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Definition

Symbol-free definition

A subgroup of a group is termed characteristic-potentially characteristic if there is an embedding of the bigger group in some group such that, in that embedding both the group and the subgroup become characteristic.

Definition with symbols

A subgroup H of a group G is termed characteristic-potentially characteristic in G if there exists a group K containing G such that both H and G are characteristic in K.

Formalisms

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In terms of the upper-hook operator

Given two subgroup properties p and q, the upper-hook operator of p and q is defined as the following property r: a subgroup H of a group K has property r if there exists a group G containing K such that H has property p in G and K has property q in G.

The property of being characteristic-potentially characteristic is thus obtained by applying the upper-hook operator to the property characteristic subgroup with itself.

Relation with other properties

Stronger properties

Weaker properties

Metaproperties

Transitivity

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Intersection-closedness

The problem of whether an intersection (finite or arbitrary) of subgroups with this property again has this property is an open problem.

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