2-subnormal subgroup

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This page describes a subgroup property obtained as a composition of two fundamental subgroup properties: normal subgroup and normal subgroup
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Definition

QUICK PHRASES: normal inside normal closure, every conjugate is in its normalizer, normal closure is in normalizer, normal subgroup of normal subgroup

Symbol-free definition

A subgroup of a group is termed 2-subnormal if the following equivalent conditions hold:

  • There is an intermediate subgroup containing it such that the subgroup is normal in the intermediate subgroup and such that the intermediate subgroup is normal in the whole group.
  • The subgroup is normal in its normal closure.
  • The normal closure of the subgroup is contained in its normalizer
  • The subgroup is contained in the normal core of its normalizer

The property of being 2-subnormal is the same as the property of being subnormal of depth 2.

Definition with symbols

A subgroup H of a group G is termed 2-subnormal if the following equivalent conditions hold:

  • There is subgroup K such that H is a normal subgroup of K and K is a normal subgroup of G.
  • The normal closure of H is a normal subgroup of G.

Formalisms

First-order description

This subgroup property is a first-order subgroup property, viz., it has a first-order description in the theory of groups.
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A subgroup H is 2-subnormal in a group G if it satisfies the following first-order sentence:

gG,x,yH,gxg1ygx1g1H

Relation with other properties

Stronger properties

Weaker properties

Metaproperties

Transitivity

NO: This subgroup property is not transitive: a subgroup with this property in a subgroup with this property, need not have the property in the whole group
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A 2-subnormal subgroup of a 2-subnormal subgroup is not necessarily 2-subnormal. For full proof, refer: 2-subnormality is not transitive

Trimness

This subgroup property is trim -- it is both trivially true (true for the trivial subgroup) and identity-true (true for a group as a subgroup of itself).
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Every group is 2-subnormal as a subgroup of itself, and further, the trivial subgroup is 2-subnormal in any group.

Intersection-closedness

YES: This subgroup property is intersection-closed: an arbitrary (nonempty) intersection of subgroups with this property, also has this property.
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An arbitrary intersection of 2-subnormal subgroups is 2-subnormal. For full proof, refer: 2-subnormality is strongly intersection-closed

Join-closedness

This subgroup property is not join-closed, viz., it is not true that a join of subgroups with this property must have this property.
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An arbitrary join of 2-subnormal subgroups need not be 2-subnormal. In fact, even a join of two 2-subnormal subgroups need not be 2-subnormal. For full proof, refer: 2-subnormality is not finite-join-closed

Conjugate-join-closedness

This subgroup property is conjugate-join-closed; in other words, a join of conjugate subgroups, each having the property, also has the property.
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A join of 2-subnormal subgroups that are conjugate to each other is again 2-subnormal. For full proof, refer: 2-subnormality is conjugate-join-closed

Intermediate subgroup condition

YES: This subgroup property satisfies the intermediate subgroup condition: if a subgroup has the property in the whole group, it has the property in every intermediate subgroup.
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If H is a 2-subnormal subgroup of G, then H is also 2-subnormal in any intermediate subgroup K of G. For full proof, refer: 2-subnormality satisfies intermediate subgroup condition

Transfer condition

YES: This subgroup property satisfies the transfer condition: if a subgroup has the property in the whole group, its intersection with any subgroup has the property in that subgroup.
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If H is a 2-subnormal subgroup of G and K is any subgroup of G, then HK is 2-subnormal in K. For full proof, refer: 2-subnormality satisfies transfer condition

Image condition

YES: This subgroup property satisfies the image condition, i.e., under any surjective homomorphism, the image of a subgroup satisfying the property also satisfies the property
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If f:GK is a surjective homomorphism of groups, and H is 2-subnormal in G, then f(H) is 2-subnormal in K.

Upper join-closedness

NO: This subgroup property is not upper join-closed: if a subgroup has the property in intermediate subgroups it need not have the property in their join.

If HG and K,L are two intermediate subgroups containing H, it may happen that H is 2-subnormal in K as well as in L, but is not 2-subnormal in K,L. For full proof, refer: 2-subnormality is not upper join-closed

Effect of property operators

The right transiter

Applying the right transiter to this property gives: right-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup

The right transiter of the property of being 2-subnormal is termed the property of being right-transitively 2-subnormal. A subgroup H of a group G is termed right-transitively 2-subnormal if any 2-subnormal subgroup K of H is 2-subnormal in G.

Some subgroup properties stronger than being right-transitively 2-subnormal include: base of a wreath product, transitively normal subgroup, and normal subgroup that is also a T-group (for instance, an Abelian normal subgroup).

The left transiter

Applying the left transiter to this property gives: left-transitively 2-subnormal subgroup

The left transiter of the property of being 2-subnormal is termed the property of being left-transitively 2-subnormal. A subgroup H of a group G is termed left-transitively 2-subnormal if whenever G is embedded as a 2-subnormal subgroup of some group K, H is also 2-subnormal in K.

Any characteristic subgroup is left-transitively 2-subnormal, because the left transiter of normal is characteristic.