Image-closed fully invariant not implies verbal

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This article gives the statement and possibly, proof, of a non-implication relation between two subgroup properties. That is, it states that every subgroup satisfying the first subgroup property (i.e., image-closed fully invariant subgroup) need not satisfy the second subgroup property (i.e., verbal subgroup)
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Statement

It is possible to have a group and a subgroup of such that:

  • is an image-closed fully invariant subgroup of : for any surjective homomorphism , is a fully invariant subgroup of .
  • is not a verbal subgroup of .

Facts used

  1. verbal subgroup equals power subgroup in abelian group

Proof

Example of the quasicyclic group

For any prime , let be the quasicyclic group for the prime . This is defined as the inverse limit of the sequence:

It can also be defined as the group of all roots of unity for all .

Define as the subgroup comprising the elements of order . Then:

  • Any nontrivial normal subgroup of contains . Thus, for any surjective homomorphism , either the map is an isomorphism or we have that is trivial. In either case, is fully invariant in .
  • is not verbal in : A verbal subgroup of an abelian group is a power subgroup -- it is the set of powers for some . But in this group , the set of powers is equal to for all .