Derived subgroup not is purely definable: Difference between revisions

From Groupprops
No edit summary
No edit summary
 
Line 11: Line 11:
The [[derived subgroup]] of a [[group]] need not be a [[purely definable subgroup]].
The [[derived subgroup]] of a [[group]] need not be a [[purely definable subgroup]].


More specifically, the [[commutator subgroup]] of the [[free group:F2|free group of rank two]] is not a purely definable subgroup.
More specifically, the [[derived subgroup]] of the [[free group:F2|free group of rank two]] is not a purely definable subgroup.


==Related facts==
==Related facts==

Latest revision as of 04:43, 12 February 2013

This article gives the statement, and possibly proof, of the fact that for a group, the subgroup obtained by applying a given subgroup-defining function (i.e., commutator subgroup) does not always satisfy a particular subgroup property (i.e., purely definable subgroup)
View subgroup property satisfactions for subgroup-defining functions

|

View subgroup property dissatisfactions for subgroup-defining functions

History

This is based on as yet unpublished result of Bestvina and Feighn (referred to here).

Statement

The derived subgroup of a group need not be a purely definable subgroup.

More specifically, the derived subgroup of the free group of rank two is not a purely definable subgroup.

Related facts