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* [[normal equals potentially characteristic]]: A [[normal subgroup]] <math>H</math> of a [[group]] <math>G</math> is potentially characteristic: there exists a group <math>K</math> containing <math>G</math> such that <math>H</math> is a [[characteristic subgroup]] of <math>K</math>.
 
* [[group property-conditionally potentially characteristic subgroup]]: This is the notion of being potentially characteristic with respect to a group property.
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* [[potentially characteristic subgroups characterization problem]]
 
* [[potentially operator]]: This takes as input a subgroup property and outputs the property of being a subgroup that can satisfy the property in some ambient group.
==History==
 
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==Definition==
 
===Symbol-free definition===
 
A subgroup of a group is termed '''potentially characteristic''' if there is an embedding of the bigger group in some group such that, in that embedding the subgroup becomes [[characteristic subgroup|characteristic]].
 
===Definition with symbols===
 
A subgroup <math>H</math> of a group <math>G</math> is termed ''potentially characteristic'' in <math>G</math> if there exists a group <math>K</math> containing <math>G</math> such that <math>H</math> is [[characteristic subgroup|characteristic]] in <math>K</math>.
 
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The property of being potentially characteristic is obtained by applying the [[potentially operator]] to the property of being [[characteristic subgroup|characteristic]]. The potentially operator is an idempotent ascendant monotone operator.
 
==Relation with other properties==
 
===Stronger properties===
 
* [[Characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Intermediately characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Strongly potentially characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Potentially fully characteristic subgroup]]
 
===Weaker properties===
 
* [[Potentially relatively characteristic subgroup]]
* [[Extensible automorphism-invariant subgroup]]
* [[Normal subgroup]]
 
===Conjecture of equalling normality===
 
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Since the potentially operator is an idempotent monotone ascendant operator, and the property of being [[normal subgroup|normal]] is a fixed point of this operator, every potentially characteristic subgroup is normal. The converse question: ''is every normal subgroup potentially characteristic?'' has not yet been answered. This is discussed at the page on the [[NPC conjecture]].
 
==Metaproperties==
 
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Is the intersection of two potentially characteristic subgroups potentially characteristic?
 
==Property operators==
 
===Left transiter===
 
Every characteristic subgroup of a potentially characteristic subgroup is potentially characteristic. In fact, the same supergroup works.
 
That is, suppose <math>M \le G \le H</math> with <math>M</math> characteristic in <math>G</math> and <math>G</math> potentially characteristic in <math>H</math>. Then, there exists a group <math>K</math> containing <math>H</math> such that both <math>G</math> and <math>H</math> are [[characteristic subgroup|characteristic]] in <math>K</math>. Then, we also have that <math>M</math> is characteristic in <math>K</math>, and hence <math>M</math> is potentially characteristic in <math>H</math>.

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