# There exist subgroups of arbitrarily large subnormal depth

This is a statement of the form: there exist subnormal subgroups of arbitrarily large subnormal depth satisfying certain conditions.
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## Statement

Let $k$ be a positive integer. Then, we can find a group $G$ and a subgroup $H$ such that $H$ is a $k$-subnormal subgroup of $G$ but is not a $(k-1)$-subnormal subgroup of $G$. In other words, the subnormal depth of $H$ in $G$ is precisely $k$. Equivalently, there exists a series of subgroups: $H = H_0 \le H_1 \le H_2 \le \dots \le H_k = G$

with each $H_i$ normal in $H_{i+1}$, and there exists no series of length $k-1$ with the property.

## Proof

### Example of the dihedral group

Further information: dihedral group

Let $G$ be the dihedral group of order $2^{k+1}$. Specifically, we have: $G = \langle a,x \mid a^{2^k} = x^2 = e, xax^{-1} = a^{-1} \rangle$.

Let $H$ be the two-element subgroup generated by $x$: $H = \langle x \rangle = \{ e, x \}$.

• $H$ is $k$-subnormal in $G$. Consider the series: $H = \langle x \rangle \le \langle a^{2^{k-1}}, x \rangle \le \langle a^{2^{k-2}}, x \rangle \le \dots \le \langle a^2, x \rangle \le \langle a,x \rangle = G$.

Each subgroup has index two in its predecessor, and is thus normal. The series has length $k$, so $H$ is $k$-subnormal in $G$.

• $H$ is not $(k-1)$-subnormal in $G$: To see this, note that the above subnormal series is a subnormal series of minimum length, because, starting from the right, each subgroup is the normal closure of $H$ in the group to its right.