# Descendant subgroup

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## Definition

### Symbol-free definition

A subgroup of a group is said to be descendant if there is a descending series of subgroups indexed by ordinals, each normal in its predecessor, that starts at the whole group, and terminates at the given subgroup.

### Definition with symbols

A subgroup $H$ of a group $G$ is termed descendant if we have a series $H_\alpha$ for every ordinal $\alpha$ such that:

• $H_0 = G$
• $H_{\alpha + 1} \triangleleft H_\alpha$ (viz $H_{\alpha + 1}$ is a normal subgroup of $H_\alpha$)
• There is some $\beta$ such that $H_\beta = G$ (note that beyond this point we must get all $H_\alpha = G$).

### In terms of the descendant closure operator

The subgroup property of being an descendant subgroup is obtained by applying the descendant closure operator to the subgroup property of being normal.

## Metaproperties

### Transitivity

This subgroup property is transitive: a subgroup with this property in a subgroup with this property, also has this property in the whole group.
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A descendant subgroup of a descendant subgroup is descendant. The proof relies on simply concatenating the two descending series.

### Trimness

This subgroup property is trim -- it is both trivially true (true for the trivial subgroup) and identity-true (true for a group as a subgroup of itself).
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The trivial subgroup and the whole group are both normal subgroups, hence they are also both descendant subgroups.

### Intermediate subgroup condition

YES: This subgroup property satisfies the intermediate subgroup condition: if a subgroup has the property in the whole group, it has the property in every intermediate subgroup.
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Any descendant subgroup of a group is also descendant in every intermediate subgroup. The proof of this follows by intersecting every member of the descending series with the intermediate subgroup and observing that normality at each stage is preserved.

### Intersection-closedness

YES: This subgroup property is intersection-closed: an arbitrary (nonempty) intersection of subgroups with this property, also has this property.
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An arbitrary intersection of descendant subgroups is ascendant. This again follows by intersecting the ascending series for each subgroup.