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It is possible to have groups <math>H \le K \le G</math> such that <math>H</math> is a [[powering-invariant normal subgroup]] of <math>G</math> and <math>K/H</math> is a [[powering-invariant subgroup]] of the [[quotient group]] <math>G/H</math>,  but <math>K</math> is not powering-invariant in <math>G</math>.
It is possible to have groups <math>H \le K \le G</math> such that <math>H</math> is a [[powering-invariant normal subgroup]] of <math>G</math> and <math>K/H</math> is a [[powering-invariant subgroup]] of the [[quotient group]] <math>G/H</math>,  but <math>K</math> is not powering-invariant in <math>G</math>.
==Related facts==
* [[Powering-invariant over quotient-powering-invariant implies powering-invariant]]
* [[Quotient-powering-invariance is quotient-transitive]]


==Proof==
==Proof==

Revision as of 02:44, 31 March 2013

This article gives the statement, and possibly proof, of a subgroup property (i.e., powering-invariant subgroup) not satisfying a subgroup metaproperty (i.e., quotient-transitive subgroup property).
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Statement

It is possible to have groups HKG such that H is a powering-invariant normal subgroup of G and K/H is a powering-invariant subgroup of the quotient group G/H, but K is not powering-invariant in G.

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Proof

The proof idea is follows: use the construction in the reference for H. Now take K as a subgroup containing H such that K/H is a finite cyclic group of order greater than 1. Now:

  • H is powering-invariant in G by construction, since both G and H are rationally powered groups.
  • K/H is powering-invariant in G/H since G/H is not powered over any prime.
  • K is not powering-invariant in G: For instance, any element in the coset of H in K other than H cannot have a square root in K, even though G is 2-powered.

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