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==Proof==
==Proof==


We construct a counterexample as follows. Let <math>G = D \times C</math> where <math>D</math> is the dihedral group of order 8, and <math>C</math> is the cyclic group on 2 elements. Let <math>a</math> be an element of order 4 in <math>D</math>, and <math>x</math> a reflection in <math>D</math>. Further, let <math>y</math> be the generator of <math>C</math>.
{{further|[[Particular example::dihedral group:D8]]}}


Look at the subgroups <math>H = <x,a></math> and <math>K = <xy,a></math>. Both these subgroups are actually automorphs of each other, and moreover, they both have the same centralizer: the group <math><a^2,y></math>. However, the group <math>H \cap K</math>, which is just <math>a</math>, is not a central factor.
We construct a counterexample as follows. Let <math>G = D \times C</math> where <math>D</math> is the [[dihedral group:D8|dihedral group of order eight]], given by the presentation:


Note that both <math>H</math> and <math>K</math> are direct factors, so the proof shows that an intersection of direct factors need not be a central factor.
<math>D = \langle a,x \mid a^4 = x^2 = e, axa^{-1} = x^{-1} \rangle</math>,
 
and <math>C</math> is the [[cyclic group:Z2|cyclic group on two elements]], with generator <math>y</math>.
 
Look at the subgroups <math>H = \langle x,a \rangle</math> and <math>K = \langle xy,a \rangle</math>. We have the following:
 
* <math>H = D \times 1</math> is a direct factor, and in particular, a central factor.
* <math>K</math> is an automorph of <math>H</math> under the automorphism of <math>G</math> given by <math>a \mapsto a, x \mapsto xy, y \mapsto y</math>. Thus, <math>K</math> is also a direct factor of <math>G</math>, and hence, a central factor.
* The intersection <math>H \cap K</math> is given by <math>\langle a \rangle</math>. This is an abelian subgroup, but it is clearly not in the center, hence it cannot be a central factor.
 
Note that both <math>H</math> and <math>K</math> are direct factors, so the proof shows that an intersection of direct factors need not be a central factor. In fact, the same example shows that many related properties are not closed under finite intersections.

Latest revision as of 23:24, 15 February 2009

This article gives the statement, and possibly proof, of a subgroup property (i.e., central factor) not satisfying a subgroup metaproperty (i.e., finite-intersection-closed subgroup property).This also implies that it does not satisfy the subgroup metaproperty/metaproperties: Intersection-closed subgroup property (?), .
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Statement

An intersection of central factors need not be a central factor.

Proof

Further information: dihedral group:D8

We construct a counterexample as follows. Let where is the dihedral group of order eight, given by the presentation:

,

and is the cyclic group on two elements, with generator .

Look at the subgroups and . We have the following:

  • is a direct factor, and in particular, a central factor.
  • is an automorph of under the automorphism of given by . Thus, is also a direct factor of , and hence, a central factor.
  • The intersection is given by . This is an abelian subgroup, but it is clearly not in the center, hence it cannot be a central factor.

Note that both and are direct factors, so the proof shows that an intersection of direct factors need not be a central factor. In fact, the same example shows that many related properties are not closed under finite intersections.