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* <math>G</math> is [[semidihedral group:SD16]], which is a Schur-trivial group.
* <math>G</math> is [[particular example::semidihedral group:SD16]], which is a Schur-trivial group.
* <math>H</math> is the subgroup [[D8 in SD16]] inside <math>G</math>.
* <math>H</math> is the subgroup [[particular example::D8 in SD16]] inside <math>G</math>.
* <math>H</math> is abstractly isomorphic to [[dihedral group:D8]], which is ''not'' Schur-trivial.
* <math>H</math> is abstractly isomorphic to [[particular example::dihedral group:D8]], which is ''not'' Schur-trivial.


===Example of general linear group===
===Example of general linear group===
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* <math>G</math> is [[general linear group:GL(2,3)]], which is a Schur-trivial group of order 48.
* <math>G</math> is [[particular example::general linear group:GL(2,3)]], which is a Schur-trivial group of order 48.
* <math>H</math> is the subgroup [[D8 in GL(2,3)]], obtained by using the [[faithful irreducible representation of dihedral group:D8]] over [[field:F3]].
* <math>H</math> is the subgroup [[particular example::D8 in GL(2,3)]], obtained by using the [[faithful irreducible representation of dihedral group:D8]] over [[field:F3]].
* <math>H</math> is isomorphic to [[dihedral group:D8]], which is not Schur-trivia.
* <math>H</math> is isomorphic to [[particular example::dihedral group:D8]], which is not Schur-trivial.

Latest revision as of 23:42, 12 January 2013

This article gives the statement, and possibly proof, of a group property (i.e., Schur-trivial group) not satisfying a group metaproperty (i.e., subgroup-closed group property).
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Statement

It is possible to have a Schur-trivial group and a subgroup of that is not Schur-trivial.

Related facts

Proof

Example of semidihedral group

We take the following:

  • is semidihedral group:SD16, which is a Schur-trivial group.
  • is the subgroup D8 in SD16 inside .
  • is abstractly isomorphic to dihedral group:D8, which is not Schur-trivial.

Example of general linear group

We could take: