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Permutability is not finite-intersection-closed
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This article gives the statement, and possibly proof, of a subgroup property (i.e., permutable subgroup) not satisfying a subgroup metaproperty (i.e., finite-intersection-closed subgroup property).
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Statement
Verbal statement
The intersection of two permutable subgroups of a group need not be permutable.
Symbolic statement
It is possible to find a group G and subgroups H and K of G such that H and K are both permutable subgroups (viz quasinormal subgroups) but
is not.
Related facts
Related facts that don't hold for permutable subgroups
Related facts that do hold for permutable subgroups
- Permutability is strongly join-closed
- Permutability satisfies image condition
- Permutability satisfies inverse image condition
- Permutability satisfies intermediate subgroup condition
- Permutability satisfies transfer condition
Proof
Construction of the counterexample
Setup: Let p be an odd prime.
- A is a semidirect product of cyclic group of prime-square order and cyclic group of prime order. More specifically it is a group generated by two elements a,b subject to the relations
and ab = bap + 1. Alternatively A is the semidirect product of the additive group modulo p2 by the multiplicative group of order p in the multiplicative group of automorphisms. Note that A is a non-abelian group of order p3.
- C is a cyclic group of prime-square order: It is a cyclic group of order p2, generated by an element c.
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We claim that H and K are both permutable in G, but their intersection
is not permutable.
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is permutable: H is a direct factor of G so it is clearly a normal subgroup and hence a permutable subgroup.
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is permutable: Since permutability satisfies the inverse image condition, we see that if B is permutable in A, then
is permutable in G. Thus, it suffices to show that B is permutable as a subgroup of A. This can easily be checked by verifying that B commutes with all the cyclic subgroups of A. (a proof of this is provided in an example for permutable not implies normal).
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is not permutable in G: Consider the cyclic subgroup D generated by (a,c). The claim is that
. To prove this notice that
. This is clearly not in B0D.
Further fact shown by the example
This example shows some further facts:
- The intersection of a permutable subgroup with a direct factor need not be a permutable subgroup. In this example, for instance, A is a direct factor, but its intersection with C is still not a permutable subgroup.
- A permutable subgroup of a direct factor need not be a permutable subgroup. In this case
is a permutable subgroup inside A, which itself is a direct factor.
- Permutability is not a direct product-closed subgroup property
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